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Y Combinator chief Garry Tan: American open labs should also be allowed to "distill" other models

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The argument over who owns the "knowledge" of SI models is only beginning, and supporters of openness want intelligence to be a shared resource, not the monopoly of a couple of companies.

Tan believes closed labs should not decide how customers use the outputs of their APIs, and proposes an "American distillation regime," training open models on the outputs of frontier ones. His argument: the labs themselves did not ask permission when training on publicly available data. The position runs counter to Anthropic, which the day before accused Chinese companies of "illegal distillation" and called for tough measures.

History

Dispute over distilling other labs' models

7 events
  1. Anthropic says new measures cut data harvesting from Claude by competitors by 90-99%
  2. OpenAI says it stopped a campaign to "siphon off" its models' reasoning: the core is linked to people from Moonshot AI
  3. Jensen Huang: model distillation is "competition," not theft
  4. China opens a review of DeepSeek and Moonshot: according to Anthropic, they ran tens of millions of queries through Claude, including police data
  5. Y Combinator chief Garry Tan: American open labs should also be allowed to "distill" other modelsOpen now
  6. Anthropic: Alibaba, Moonshot and DeepSeek siphoned off Claude's knowledge through almost 200 million queries
  7. US intelligence agencies accuse DeepSeek, Moonshot, Alibaba and three other Chinese companies of mass "extraction" of American SI models
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